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The Resilient
Catholics Community



The Resilient Catholics Community (RCC) is for you if you:

  • are a psychologically minded, faithful, orthodox Catholic who loves the Interior Integration for Catholics podcast,¬†especially the experiential exercises want to learn to love yourself in an ordered way
  • are committed to spending time, energy and resources on your own human formation
  • appreciate both the¬†multiplicity and unitive aspects of the human person, informed by Internal Family System thinking and grounded in a Catholic¬†understanding of the human person
  • have committed to personal, relational prayer with God and Mary, even if you¬†struggle with it
  • deeply desire to come to God our Spiritual Father and Mary our Spiritual Mother with childlike trust and complete confidence, even if the prospect brings up fear or trepidation¬†
  • Check out our 19-minute experiential exercise to help you discern about applying to the RCC.¬†

Registration is now closed for the

St. Gertrude the Great Cohort 

Please add your name to the Interest List for the October 2024 cohort.

Join the October 2024 Interest List

Get updates about the application process for the St. Hildegard of Bingen cohort.  Registration will open on October 1st.

The Core of the RCC

Adam and Michelle Gardiner are a married couple, both members of the RCC, who have been inspired to start the Master's program in counseling at Divine Mercy University.  For one of their graduate courses, they had to interview a Catholic "influencer" about how a Catholic understanding of the human person (a.k.a. a Catholic anthropology) drives their work.  We recorded the interview so they would not have to take so many notes so fast.  But their questions drew out in such a clear way the essence of the RCC from an anthropological perspective, and Adam and Michelle were so gracious to allow me to share this with you. The audio only is here.


May 2024 RCC Informational Meeting

Join Marion Moreland, the RCC Lead Navigator and Dr. Peter for a 70-minute meeting all about what it means to apply for the RCC and what it is like.  We answered many questions from a live audience.  Click here to get an audio-only link.

Check out Kathy Holecek's experience of the Resilient Catholics Community in this three minute-video.


The Resilient Catholics Community:

  • has nearly 300 current members and is growing
  • has a structured program of 44 weekly 90-minute meetings over the course of a year with your company of¬†six to eight other pilgrims
  • starts with the PartsFinder Pro (PFP, formerly called the IMK)¬†‚Äď this is a set of measures that takes about two hours to complete, and at least two members of our staff generate a five- or six-page PFP report that details our understanding of your hypothesized parts and the possible ways they interact within you. You can download a PDF for a sample fictional report for a man and a woman ¬† ¬†
  • matches you with a pilgrimage companion for daily check-ins, accountability and support
  • provides a library of hundreds of different resources ‚Äď talks, articles, blogs, podcasts, and experiential exercises to support you in your inner work
  • connects you with other like-minded Catholics from around the world, who are committed to their human formation, informed by Internal Family Systems and grounded in an authentic Catholic understanding of the human person
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"I am growing, and all the small parts within me are growing, too. I attribute this to the gentle, loving approach I am learning to have towards my own humanity and the re-'formation' taking place within me.

I have always desired integrity and integration but didn't know quite how to get there. I didn't know that the answers were inside me and that God was lovingly guiding me there. Allowing myself to 'go there' with Him on this journey has been the greatest gift I've ever given myself, and hopefully, as I grow, it will be the gift that keeps on giving." 

- Elizabeth Lacayo, Metairie, LA


We meet primarily online via Zoom and in our dedicated Mighty Networks app.


Here is a timeline for registration:

  • May 21, 2024 -- informational email goes out to those on the interest list
  • June 1 - 30, 2024 ‚Äď Registration for new applicants is open
  • June 3 - July 15, 2024 ‚Äď Applicants complete all the registration paperwork:
    • Consent Form / Member Agreement
    • Part 1 of the PartsFinder Pro (PFP, formerly called the IMK) on paper (for copyright reasons) which is has to be scanned or photographed and returned to us
    • Part 2 of the PFP, which is a google form done online.
  • June 10 - August 10, 2024 ‚Äď Receive your PFP report (see the PDFs for a sample fictional report for a man and a woman) and have your 15-minute Zoom meeting with one of our staff members.
  • August 1- 9, 2024 ‚Äď Complete the online scheduling app with your availability for your weekly 90-minute company meetings
  • Week of September 15, 2024: Weekly company meetings begin.¬† This downloadable PDF has the topics for the 44 weeks in Year 1 of the RCC.¬†
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"Making sense of self and the world around me through the lenses of my Catholic faith, psychology, and community is making all the difference!"

- Joyce Lynn, Monument, CO


The RCC is all about learning to be loved and to love...

...to carry out the two Great Commandments.  We learn to be loved when we can trust – when we can feel safe enough to be seen, heard, known and understood in all our parts.  Each of us needs to be loved by God, by others, and by ourselves. 

But it doesn't end there.  In the RCC we are learning to reflect that love back to God and others.  And we are learning to love with our whole hearts, our whole minds, our whole souls and all our strength.  We are learning to love with every fiber of our being.  All of us.  All of our parts.  No part left behind, abandoned to carry our shame, grief, anger, sadness or fear alone. 

And we are doing this together.  Not as lone wolves, not as lone rangers.  Together.  In community.  In relationship with each other.  Fully in the Catholic Church, the mystical body of Christ, each of us individual members of that body.


...to enroll in the RCC:

  1. Use this¬†link to register¬†and pay the (non-refundable) $299 application fee.¬†The 44 weekly sessions happen over 12 months, with a $99 per month fee. The total cost is $1487 for the whole experience. If you need financial assistance, let our office manager know -¬†Patty Ellenberger at [email protected] or 317.207.1226.¬† We don't turn anyone away from the RCC because of financial need, so there are scholarships and write-offs available to make it affordable.
  2. After you register, Patty will email you the consent form / member agreement form with demographic information for you to sign and return to her, either by email or by mail to Souls and Hearts, Resilient Catholics Community, 3560 Five Points Road, Indianapolis, IN 46239.
  3. Once we've received your consent / agreement form back, you will get via email Parts 1 and 2 of the PartsFinder Pro. For legal reasons, Part 1 has to be printed and completed, and then scanned and emailed, photographed and emailed, or sent by postal mail. You complete Part 2 of the PFP online.
  4. Once we have all the measures of the PFP completed, we will score them and create your summary sheet and Personal Human Formation Plan (PHFP).  This part happens in June or July, depending on when you apply and turn in your completed PFP.
  5. Then you will schedule a 15-minute Zoom or phone interview with one of our staff members to review your PFP report and address any questions.
  6. If those results, combined with the rest of your application, indicate you're a good fit for the RCC, Patty will send you a link to sign up for the $99 per month subscription.
  7. In August, you will fill out our scheduling app with the times during the week when you are available for the company meetings.  We will then match you with 8 other people in a company that can meet when you are available. We will also match you with two companions based on compatibility in your PFP results.
  8. You will then be invited to join the RCC on our Mighty Network social networking app.
  9. If you don't seem to be a good fit for the RCC at the present time, we will give you recommendations in your Zoom or phone interview and work with you to help you get what you need.
  10. The RCC company meetings will begin September 15, 2024.

Here’s what you need to know now so that you don’t miss out in joining the Resilient Catholics Community (RCC).

Space is limited and demand is high. 

  • We have 111 people on the waiting list
  • Several others have discussed their interest with me personally
  • We have space for 80 more people in the community – we’re keeping it manageable, so we don’t lose our personal touch.
  • Registration is $99 and it includes the Initial Measure Kit administration, scoring, and the creation of your initial Personal Human Formation Plan (PHFP), as well as a 15 - minute conversation with an RCC staff member to discuss your plan with you.
  • Registration is limited to the first 80 new members. We will close registration down when we reach that number. We may take about 20 more people as standby alternates in case space opens up. 
  • People who want to get in but sign up later will be given priority when we reopen the RCC to new registrations in December 2021.
  • Finalization of the registration depends on your completing of the Initial Measures Kit and the review by our staff.

Features of the RCC

  • Each RCC member will have companion member – a person with whom they check in every day for connection and accountability to their Personal Human Formation Plan (PHFP) – six times per week, that check in can be a short private message on our app or an email. Once per week is a little longer by phone or videoconference. 
  • Four companion pairs will come together to form a company. Each company will have eight members and meets weekly for 60-75 minutes via Zoom at a regular time with an outline and a program for the week.  This is a way for you to connect with a small group.
  • Each company will choose from its members a link and a co-link who will help with organization and coordination with RCC staff. Some special training will be provided to the links and co-links.  Elizabeth Hofmeister or another RCC staff member will sit in on the first few company meetings to help facilitate. 

The Initial Measures Kit

  • Is composed of 14 questionnaires to help us get to know you and your human formation needs
  • Takes about 2-3 hours to complete
  • Assesses a variety of human formation domains and some related areas of spiritual formation
  • Will be sent to you via email after your initial registration payment of $99.

Ongoing Time Commitments for the RCC  

  • Serious work on human formation takes time.
  • We are asking that you set aside an average of 20-25 minutes per day for this work or about three hours per week, total.
  • That includes listening to the current Interior Integration for Catholic podcast episode and the premium podcast, the daily check-ins with your own parts inside, your check-in with your companion, and your weekly meeting with your company.

Time Frames

  • Once you register, you’ll be sent the Initial Measures Kit
  • You’ll have two weeks to finish those measures and return them to us
  • Two to four weeks after that, we will provide you with a summary of the finding and our recommendations for your PHFP.
  • In July, we will be connecting members with companions, and in August, the companies will start meeting.


  • The Interior Integration for Catholics Podcast will illustrate basic concepts from Internal Family Systems in the month of June, to help everyone get a basic understanding parts and core self, all grounded in a Catholic worldview
  • Each month we will have a theme for the experiential learning in the RCC – topics for the 2021-2022 year include: Basic IFS principles, Integrity Needs, Attachment Needs, Trust, Relationships, Boundaries, Empathy, Obstacles to Prayer, God Images, Getting Unstuck and many more…
  • Membership in the RCC also gets you four exclusive premium podcasts per month (like this one), on the theme and topics of the month, as well as our private Mighty Networks app for connecting with other members, our monthly conversation and office hours, our second Wednesday Zoom meetings and many other benefits.
  • Our text for the RCC will be “Self-Therapy Workbook” by Bonnie Weiss and it can be found here and many other places as well. We will be using selected exercises from that book.  An optional, supplemental text is Self-Therapy by Jay Earley and it’s here.


  • The cost for the ongoing subscription to the RCC is $99 per month (your first month is free with an approved, paid registration). If you are experiencing significant financial hardship and need assistance, contact Elizabeth Hofmeister at [email protected]
  • There are no long-term commitments – you can end your participation in the RCC at any time if it doesn’t seem like a good fit for you.

Safety and Confidentiality in the RCC

Dr. Peter discusses two primary ground rules within the RCC.


For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

- Matthew 18:20

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St. Thomas Aquinas

Grace does not destroy nature, but perfects it.

- St. Thomas Aquinas

Check out Austin Comito's experience of the Resilient Catholics Community in this two minute-video.

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"The RCC is the missing ingredient in my Catholic spirituality that I believe will provide the human formation I need. Over time, I believe God will use the RCC to strengthen my spiritual life and lovingly heal my parts so that I can continue to unblend and perfect my love for the Lord, myself, my family, and others. It's a lifelong journey." 

- Mark Pizzuto, Hillsborough, NJ

I am Dr. Peter Malinoski, a Catholic clinical psychologist who wants to bring together a community of Catholics who are serious about shoring up our natural foundations on which to build the fullness of the Catholic spiritual life.

We are bringing together Catholics who want to learn better how to tolerate being known and loved (it’s not as easy as it may sound), and who want to learn better how to understand and love others. And I mean “love” in the sense of authentic Christian charity, in the sense of agape, not romantic love.

Check out David Saunder's experience of the Resilient Catholics Community in this three minute-video.



“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?” And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment.  And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 

- Matthew 22: 36-39

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Our community is not about therapy

The Resilient Catholics Community is not about therapy. We do not do therapy in the RCC. Even though most of our members are in their own therapy or have been in the past, RCC membership isn’t a substitute for therapy.

Over the last few years, I have focused on ways that people heal outside of formal individual, group, marital, and family therapy. These therapies, as helpful and important as they are, don’t have a monopoly on healing and growing. Instead of doing therapy, we bring in approaches from life coaching, education, pastoral work, support groups, and from other fields and disciplines.

In the RCC, we have a training ground for the real hands-on work of loving and being loved. Members can stretch themselves to reach out and connect to others via discussion posts, private messages, in our online Zoom meetings and workshops, book clubs and in other ways. We work on being attuned to each other, really understanding each other and being with each other.

And it works. Members are healing. Members are growing.

What the Resilient Catholics community isn’t:

  • It’s not a place for getting into political arguments or flame wars
  • We don’t focus on social justice issues or social/political activism
  • It’s not a place to badmouth the pope, bishops, priests, government officials, atheists, or anyone else
  • We don’t try to “fix” each other. Instead, our goal is to “be with” each other, and trust that God’s authentic love reflected in us and through us heals us and our neighbor

What guides the Resilient Catholics Community 

  • Humility and Charity

  • A childlike trust and absolute confidence in God our Father and Mary our Mother

  • A focus on contemplation and union with God and Mary

Join the October 2024 Interest List

Get updates about the application process for the St. Hildegard of Bingen cohort.  Registration will open on October 1st.